Ghosts was almost MW4 with a story about a world nuked after MW3’s events

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In a new video interview with GameInformer, Mark Rubin stated that Ghosts was almost called Modern Warfare 4 and was going to have a story about a world nuked after MW3’s events.

The team at Infinity Ward started developing right after Modern Warfare 3 finished. Rubin said each person was given the opportunity to post his ideas for a new game using a note card on the wall. They started off by fixing a plan to make MW4. “Well we were going to stay modern, so we were going to do Modern Warfare 4,” Rubin said, “the idea of staying modern was a key point.”

One of the developers thought about making a world that was nuked following MW3’s events, and making that MW4. One of the cards on the wall said post apocalyptic world, and that idea kept hanging round. Rubin said that one of the ideas was, “What if we really destroyed the world, and what if after Modern Warfare 3 tons of nukes are launched, and the world’s really destroyed; it’s the road or Book of Eli kind of thing.”

But then, because of the whole new engine, whole new idea, and playing in a whole new world, the team decided to make a new game instead. Rubin said, “Lets really go with that theme (post apocalyptic) and make a new Call of Duty.” And from there, the idea of Ghosts came about.

SOURCE: GameInformer

  • Gabriel

    One thing I’m gonna miss in Ghosts is Price. He’s awesome

    • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

      The Beard!

      • Archer

        Maybe in Customization?

    • Jon Q

      I thought price was in the MW series?

      • exeterman2

        That’s why he is going to miss him. How is that not obvious?!

      • ip x Warrior

        Yes he his but Ghosts is not related to MW series..

      • https://twitter.com/CallMehEpic RileyWoof

        Well i met Price in cod1 ;D

    • Jon Cameron

      What about Soap? WHAT ABOUT SOAP DAMN IT! I’m too upset about what happened :( He was my favorite.

    • jinkarasu

      Take heart in the knowledge there is hope for a Price in Ghosts, as there has been a Captain Price in every CoD game IW has made since the first game.

  • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

    My MW4 plot was Captain Price being the main center of attention again and it taking place a couple years after MW3. After Captain Price stays hidden for so long he is found and is basically trying to clear his name and eventually they figure out Shepard was bad all along.

    • Zeta

      His name was already cleared, you can tell on the last mission of mw3.

      • subtekjr

        This. They were disavowed at the start of the game, then by saving the Ruskie president, TF141 was cleared.

        • Kyle PDX

          Yes but he did shoot the living crap out of one of the richest hotels in Dubai. Regardless of his status with TF141, Americans and the British the Dubai PD are probably not to happy with him. Zetas version seems believable.

      • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

        You could hear sirens at the end of MW3. They could’ve attempted to arrest him starting a new campaign.

        • Zeta

          I heard the sirens too, Price is in prison again and a new Task Force has to bail him out because of a new enemy, starting a new story for MW4. that’s my guess.

          • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

            Too bad it will never happen. Though we are not sure what the plot is yet to be for Sledge Hammer Games upcoming COD.

        • Scotty Le

          It is a great idea. But i don’t think Price will remain in Jail, lol. The U.S President knows about Makarov, The Russian President knows about Makarov. They are most likely to get him out without firing a single bullet , lol.

  • BATMAN

    Treyarch´s next game will tell this story

    Remember you heard it here first. CoD Extinction ;)

    • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

      No.

      • BATMAN

        Proof about Im being wrong?

        • Mr. Thuggins

          Proof about you being right?

      • BATMAN

        When I say this story, I don´t mean MW4, I mean the pos apocalyptic/nuked world with only guerrillas fighting for survival

        • iSwedishVirus

          I don’t think so to be honest. Treyarch has already started to move into the feature with COD(2025 ->) and i don’t think BO3 aka COD2014/COD2015 will be having a storyline smilliar to BO2 or “MW4″, instead i think we will have a story smilliar to MW3’s where there is a war between 2 nations or a “WW3″ if you want to call it that :) However only time will tell…

  • https://twitter.com/CallMehEpic RileyWoof

    Bo 2.5 :D Let the shitstorm begin WOOF!

  • Mw4

    Maybe sledgehammer games is gonna carry on with this mw4 story thing, doesn’t sound to bad to be honest

    • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

      That’s what I was thinking.

    • HenryDF

      But now you’re talking about TWO post-apocalyptic CoD games within 1 year of eachother (assuming Sledgehammer are making CoD 11 rather than Treyarch). I know everyone wants it now, but if it was going to happen, they’d get complained at to no end.

      Ghosts will *hopefully* save CoD – a new start, a new universe, a new engine. I’m not saying that carrying on with the MW series would be bad, but to have two similar stories would be a big mistake.

    • https://twitter.com/CallMehEpic RileyWoof

      You know sledgehammer had the creative control in mw3

      • Phaggot.

        And Because of that MW3 was one of the Shittiest Cod games ever made

        • https://twitter.com/CallMehEpic RileyWoof

          And mw4 will be worse than that if SH makes it

  • Mw4 > Ghosts

    Are they basically saying Ghosts is basically mw4?

    • Keshav Bhat

      No. None of the characters, events, or worlds from Modern Warfare series will be present in Ghosts. Whole new world and story.

      • Mw4

        Sledgehammer should really do the mw4 story then don’t you agree? They ain’t linked with ghosts and they did help with mw3

    • Mr. Thuggins

      I think they’re basically not saying basically that basically Ghosts is basically MW4.

      • Mr. Thuggins’ Grandad

        Basically your nan is a whore :)

        • Mr. Thuggins

          I basically could have basically told you that basically myself.

          • iPLAY 2 ANNOY U

            i basically could basically say basically that basically MW4 basically is basically a basically different game basically than Ghosts basically…

          • iKushtyy

            Killed it..

          • ip x Warrior

            I will never see the word “basically” as it was before..

    • iPLAY 2 ANNOY U

      well basically? basically.

      • Your nan looks like a whale

        Your nan and mum are dirty little sluts you ugly cunt look at your dp

        • Guest

          How very mature…..

    • Cobra

      I hope there will be a Call Of Duty MW4… But what I really what to know is what happens to Captain Price

  • BATMAN

    I think Sledgehammer is doing MW4

  • iSwedishVirus

    They are saying that this is a whole new story, but to me it feels like a BO2.5 story tbh haha :)
    During the Single Player Trailer i was thinking that “well this looks very VERY smilliar to BO2″ and i was just waiting for Woods to say “What happends….when the enemy steals the keys?” lmao…

    • Gabriel

      In Black Ops 2 they said Drones took the power over then, but this happens only in the last mission….
      In Ghosts, you already start on a post-apocalyptic world

  • Kyle PDX

    Well thank god they changed it I was getting sick of that washed up old man captain Price. Don’t get me wrong I liked mw3 and thought they did a good job finishing up that story arch but another one would have been overkill. Besides soap is dead. :(

    • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

      Did you just dis Captain Price?!?

      • Kyle PDX

        He’s nothing without soap, nice beard though.

        • http://Twitter.com/ImDiabetus Alex Hill (Im Diabetus)

          Him and Gaz were a better team

          • Kyle PDX

            Gaz was a boss when he died I threw an imaginary brick out my window.

    • Kyle PDX

      Although if sledgehammer games carry’s it on I would not be sad especially sense cod developers would have an extra year to produce cods.

  • nick

    “New engine.”

    Lol. Bullllllllllshit.

    • SAX

      Are you serious? Can you make a whole different engine in 2 years with a team of 100-125 people? It’s a new engine but they didn’t have the time to put all the new stuff like textures, animations and many more. They simply took the old elements from the old engine and add it with new features.

      • Kyle PDX

        I think its mostly updated character models and weapons and of course the character movement along with sub d. The worlds have been improved as well but its not as amazing as people thought because they still have to make the game for current gen. Once cod is not made for current gen we will start to see the amazing improvements to cods world graphics.

    • Kyle PDX

      It is a new engine. But it has only focused on certain elements due to the current/old gen versions.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fv__G6KJQ8&list=PLZeek85Kuka0ca1mDCe9_NBjBtongDF6L#aid=P-Ga3mUS0Lk

      • Primey_

        It isn’t new. It’s updated. IW are only saying it’s new because they think they have upgraded it so much that it’s brand new.

        • BobtheCactus

          No, it can be considered new as far as engines go, instead of just tweaking it, they took its skeleton and did an overhaul. Hence the new game mechanics. ie. Sliding, leaning, and vaulting.

          • Nick

            Unless they started from scratch, it isn’t a new engine. And they didn’t start from scratch.

      • Nick
        • Kyle PDX

          I dont know if its me or the video, either way theres no audio.
          But on another thought you just posted a video by one of the most uninformed biased youtubers on youtube. Neither u or driftor get to decide if its a new engine or not the people who are designing it get to. And as for your comment to Bob the cactus they most definatly do not have to start from scratch to be a new engine. They can take an old engine and modify it by striping it to the bones and then rebuilding it with more/better features that is considered a new engine as well. What IW and 3arch have been doing for past cods is an update to the previous engine. Ghosts is a whole new engine simply because they did not just update some new features they actually reworked the whole engine. We will not get to see the full use of this new engine till they stop making games for current/old gen.

    • ip x Warrior

      In 2 year they don’t have the time to build an entirely “new engine” from the ground.. they have to keep the base and modified it. It’s a a human body, u have to keep the bone but u can modified the outside.

      • Nick

        Then it’s not new, is it?

      • Mr. Thuggins

        But, Sledgehammer has had enough time…

        • ip x Warrior

          what are you talking about ?

          • Mr. Thuggins

            Sledgehammer Games has been working on a super-secret CoD project since 2011/2012. I’m hoping that they’re working on a completely new engine/game for CoD that will release in 2015.

          • ip x Warrior

            LOL they are using the same old engine..

          • Mr. Thuggins

            I hope not. They need to move forward with this new generation of consoles.

          • ip x Warrior

            If Infinity Ward or Treyarch don’t make totally new engine, well SHG won’t make a new one.. trust me

          • Mr. Thuggins

            They don’t have time to create a new engine because they’re expected to bust out a game every two years, Sledgehammer Games, on the other hand, has that free time.

  • fionn mcfadden

    i think it’s better if you know what your character looks like, and if they talk too. Who else agrees?

    • T.E.D.

      if your character talked and feltt, he wouldn’t be “YOU” that is the only difference between games and movies and in the vuture hopefully people in the SP game will react to what you say (in the mic)

  • Sledgehammer Games for MW4

    Seeing as Infinity Ward is sticking with Ghosts they should really hand over that world nuked after MW3’s event story (MW4) over to Sledgehammer Games and let the do that story, to be honest it don’t really sound like a bad story and Sledgehammer Games is basically Modern Warfare ain’t they and I swear it was leaked that they was already working on a Modern Warfare title? Could be this world nuked after MW3’s story, probably ain’t and probably won’t even e another Modern Warfare game but you never know.

    Just an idea

  • Nick

    Be right back. I’m going to “heavily modify” my car so I can go sell it as new.

    • Kyle PDX

      Its funny because there is actually an entire industry based on this.

      • Chris Mason

        RUF comes to mind. Among others.

  • Diego Diniz

    Cant Wait! Upgraded my PC to GTX 760 and I am Ready to KICK ASS!

  • MaRico Spikes

    I see some people don’t understand that he said they finished the ‘Modern Warfare’ story, so now it’s on to a new game new realm new platform. What’s not to understand?

  • shadow

    i wouldn’t mind seeing a black ops 2 map the size of nuke town on cod ghosts

  • BeaveVillage

    Hodor.

  • GhostJN *

    I am sad about Soap’s death but I’m just glad that he died a hero’s death. For example in Cod Black ops Dimitri Petrenko was a hero of Russia and he died like an animal.

  • GHOST

    guess what? wtf is this i thought that they will bring back ghost from mw2

  • Kyle PDX

    Bias of what, I speak the truth you are the one who brought in the bias retarded youtuber I am simply reflecting the devs words. And just so you know you are on a site that is dedicated to cod of course I will defend cod.

  • Nick

    “Retarded YouTuber.” Unless you know him, that’s a biased statement. You’re also defending the same devs who insisted, for six months, that there was no connection issues in MP. The same devs that fucked up the MP5/AK/M16 buff but insisted that people were incorrect in saying that they didn’t actually patch anything. The same dev putting out the same game for going on 7 years 4 iterations now.

    Yeah, they’re not full of shit, and you aren’t biased.

  • Kyle PDX

    The features they have added are new and never existing before (in a cod) and they did so by striping the engine down and revamping it. Its a new engine that does use parts of the older engines . Keep in mind that nobody wants a start from scratch new engine for cod, that would be a bad thing they would destroy what cod fans like. Don’t fix what isn’t broke Just improve. Just stop insulting the devs they are the people that brought us this great game if u don’t agree u are on the wrong website.
    A simple Google search shows dozens, if not hundreds, of results…all saying the same thing also works for my argument.
    The reason they have been making the same game 7 years now is because people like playing the game.

    The reason there is an argument here is simply because people have different ways of looking at things.